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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 04:32:49 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on November 10, 2023, 08:24:06 AM
Murder is usually investigated pretty thoroughly, and if one is caught and convicted they are generally harshly punished.

But attempted murder is often NOT investigated as thoroughly, and robberies using a gun are investigated even less.  And intimidation with a gun is practically condoned if the perp is not a white male.  This causes people to think they can commit a crime with a gun and escape punishment.  THAT has to change.

And NONE of that is aimed at law-abiding citizens.
Yet virtually ALL democrats will seek a solution that harms law abiding citizens, as we are the only ones who they think will comply with their law.

In Illinois my brother will be forced to register his AR-15 by the end of the year I believe or become a felon in possession of an unlawful firearm.

All because blacks can’t stop killing themselves in Chicago.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 10:15:34 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on November 10, 2023, 07:56:01 AM
And the only way to end that cycle is for the opposition to fight the communist democrat party the exact same way they fight us.

You don't negotiate with terrorists, and this last 2 weeks have shown the communist/fascist democrat party with their sheet pulled back. They are a party of terror, racism, hate, and violence.

fuck them and their feelings.
They are literally a death cult.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 10:03:37 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on November 10, 2023, 07:48:17 AM
As I said, conservatives have not been compromising.  They have been surrendering, or just accepting defeat.

My point was that BOTH SIDES compromise.  And that won't happen when we let either the far left or the far right (which most of the people on this site are) lead the way.  The center left and the center right is the only place where true compromise might have a chance.

I don't know if that can ever happen.  But I do believe that unless it does happen thing will continue to get worse.

Is there ANYTHING you would be willing to compromise on if it was a true give-and-take and not just capitulation?
Yes. Spending levels. Tax rates. Military spending. Foreign aid.

But there are a lot of no-compromise zones, including God-given rights guaranteed by our Constitution. No compromise on illegal aliens for example.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 08:14:00 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on November 10, 2023, 07:44:41 AM
Make laws that don't only restrict law abiding citizens, and ENFORCE them.

Use a gun to commit a crime, go to prison for a long time.  FIRST TIME.  Second time, LIFE (or death).
Enforce that for a while and see what happens to crimes using a gun.

I read an article recently where the local police force had only been seriously investigating gun crimes where a death occurred.  If the victim accidentally lived, they barely investigated.  They made a strategic decision to investigate ALL gun crimes and found that their success rate was higher and gun crime began to decline.
So lump law abiding citizens into a new law that also goes after criminals, but mean it this time? 

What you stated is already law everywhere. But DAs, AGs, prosecutors and judges don’t enforce them.

Hell, Bill Clinton signed a crime bill in 1994 but that was gutted my no less than SCOTUS. That law included the “Three Strikes You’re Out” law, which would fit what you propose.

So if you want to write a new law that restricts law abiding citizens and criminals, that’s a non-starter.

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Spin Zone / Re: Thank you Veterans
« on: November 13, 2023, 07:54:17 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on November 11, 2023, 02:44:05 PM
Actually, I just got sick of people twisting what I say and putting words in my mouth so I thought I'd adopt the strategy.
Those that did it to me seem to hate it when I do it to them.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 10, 2023, 06:33:30 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on November 10, 2023, 06:21:08 AM
The siren song of every mushy middler is that WE must compromise.
When have the fucking liberals EVER compromised?????
Compromise is what gives lefties a boner every time, because compromise to a democrat is they take what they want and we give it to them.
Literally every compromise conservatives make is met by ridicule from the liberals. Republicans are Charlie Brown, and democrats are Lucy.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 10, 2023, 06:31:16 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on November 10, 2023, 05:40:00 AM
Maybe two or three, as long as they are enforced, and get rid of the 22,000 which if you removed all of the redundant regulations would probably number less than 100.
Which demonstrates my point exactly.  I don't think we have compromised much at all in the past.  We have surrendered or been defeated, but we haven't compromised.  If we had, we wouldn't be in this situation.  Compromise means you get something out of the deal as well as giving something up.  What have we gotten?  I'm certainly not tired of winning yet.
Since every gun control law ONLY restricts the law abiding citizen, how exactly would some other magical law(s) reduce gun crimes? 

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Pilot Zone / Blue Skies and Tailwinds to Frank Borman
« on: November 09, 2023, 04:21:07 PM »
https://www.space.com/apollo-8-astronaut-frank-borman-obituary

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Spin Zone / Re: The EV fantasy
« on: November 09, 2023, 01:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on October 29, 2023, 03:21:42 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/auto-execs-coming-clean-evs-164359606.html

Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working
EVs will have a tiny market niche for a long time. The grid cannot bear it, and people value their freedom to travel great distances too much to be saddled with the charging fiascos.

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 09, 2023, 10:18:14 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on November 08, 2023, 05:54:57 PM
  OK, lets break this down.   They are still trying to use the Fourteenth Amendment argument, which does not apply.

  First, you have to read the entire 14th amendment, not cherry pick Section 3.

   Notice Section 5.   Only the US Congress has the authority to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions (all) of this article.

  And Congress has indeed done this.   See 18 USC 2383 - Rebellion or Insurrection.

   Has Trump been charged and/or convicted of this statute?   Nope.   NOBODY involved with J6 has either.

   So, by the reading of the 14th, how can he be excluded from a ballot if he hasn't been convicted of 18 USC 2383, which is the law congress enacted as per Section 5 of the 14th?
I’m not endorsing that argument. I think it’s wrong too. But whether it’s right or wrong is really irrelevant. It’s happening and moving through the courts or legislatures. States still have power here. I thought it could never happen, but with the Wisconsin Supreme Court recently turning liberal, I would have no confidence that the Wisconsin supremes would find the left’s case unconstitutional.

Note however that the 14th Amendment does not have a prerequisite of conviction.  Why do you think the democrats and the media have been pounding the drum changing the English language to be calling January 6th an insurrection? 

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 08, 2023, 05:34:45 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on November 08, 2023, 04:43:22 PM
  OK Stan, I'll bite.   How would the SC eliminate Trump from the ballot?
Well, to start with you could read what I wrote where I mentioned the Supreme Courts of the battleground states, not the SCOTUS.

Then you can read the tweet.

You can go further and click on The Washington Post and read the article for yourself.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/08/minnesota-supreme-court-2024-ballot-trump/

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 08, 2023, 04:32:28 PM »
Hey, here’s an idea. Let’s all push for Trump to be the nominee, then see the Supreme Courts in the battleground states one by one eliminate Trump from the general election ballot.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1722377755352834326?s=12&t=a-6eIWHCOITwIFUMcu0RKQ&fbclid=IwAR3IO_hTL35Z_2bOMEn8Vz19EByNLJEqRygoRkJlBL5l2rVNaJjqyyHMYEo_aem_ATgB1Cla7aSZFxT17pSaMJqrzQTJlNjOSXsz9_RyRiuh3aSxhnRfA0ZDiK0QytMlVtQ

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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 08, 2023, 09:41:19 AM »
Anyone else tired of losing yet? 

https://youtu.be/ci7b7EGiqOU?si=934oCjzl-gQbj4Uk



I believe at last count we’ve lost 8 governor seats and enough Senate seats to lose the Senate.

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Spin Zone / Re: Joke Thread: Post 'em if ya got 'em
« on: November 07, 2023, 06:40:18 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on November 07, 2023, 06:34:11 PM
Wow, these jokes just get better and better!
LOL

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Spin Zone / Re: Surviving Obama's Third Term
« on: November 07, 2023, 06:39:21 PM »
Quote from: Lucifer on November 07, 2023, 05:45:53 PM
If republicans could steal a few pages from the democrat playbook, that wouldn't happen.

 Imagine republicans getting behind a singular candidate, and actually try to get that candidate elected.  But with so many factions of the republican party, that will never happen.


Republicans are smarter than democrats, and thus most of us are independent thinkers.  Being a lemming is not something to aspire to.

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