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Spin Zone / Re: Trump Shatters Republican Primary Vote Total
« on: June 26, 2016, 08:15:17 PM »
Sorry to say this and I know I will be labeled over there, but just how dumb is this guy...

Oh for fuck's sake!! This has to be scripted!! And they say he'd be better at foreign policy than Hillary. I'm pretty sure she knows the differences between Scotland and the UK. I wonder if Trump's supporters do?

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Spin Zone / Re: What if?
« on: June 26, 2016, 08:10:10 PM »
Trump is just promoting Trump.  Win or hopefully lose the election, he wins.

It's all about a brand for him, pure and simple.

" There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about. "

Oscar Wilde

So very true. How good is that brand? I can't think of any Trump branded anything that is worth a damn, an immediate success, or even all that popular. He's the Kim Kardashian of politics except I think she has been more popular and successful with her brands. I bet she has more money too.

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Spin Zone / Re: 10 Things Trump Claims He Never Said, but Did
« on: June 26, 2016, 08:03:24 PM »
And there it is again. Because Hillary...   ::)

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump's "Suggestion" for immigration
« on: June 25, 2016, 09:13:46 PM »
This guy will literally say anything to keep momentum on his campaign and get elected. The sad thing is his supporters will make all kinds of excuses for the dumb crap he says for him. American politics has reached a new low I think.

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Spin Zone / Re: What if?
« on: June 25, 2016, 01:34:45 PM »
That there is funny. Could be kind of true. Remember what Fast Eddie suggested way back when? Trump may be colluding with the Clintons to get Hillary elected.

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I can dream, can't I?

btw - where are all the democrats that own guns?

There actually are quite a few. They just aren't single issue voters and either don't care about gun rights as much as conservatives, or believe that the guns they have will never be taken away as long as we use "common sense".

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Maybe out in the sticks, but any metro area if you're not a cop they treat you like the enemy.

And from their perspective, the odds are in favor that you are the enemy. Cops mostly just deal with people that are fucking up. The majority of these people are bad people.

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Spin Zone / Re: Change of Pace - BrExit...what do you think
« on: June 25, 2016, 01:08:06 PM »
They would still be represented by the House and Senate.


The difference being that any taxation or spending would need to be approved, additionally, by this third chamber.


So, are you saying that today that people under the age of 18 should be exempt from taxation, well, maybe 20, because there are 19 year olds who were not old enough to vote last time.  How about lawful immigrants?  I pay plenty of taxes, and have no right to representation.

OK, so this third congress is just sort of an oversight committee? Taxation bills still originate in the house, or senate and are only approved by this committee and has final say? I'm assuming for both tax increases and reductions. It sounds like changing anything to do with taxes would be even harder than it is today. Likely a long status quo.

As to minors paying taxes, that's a good question, but I'm not a lawyer. I would guess it is covered by the fact that a minor is not a full US citizen yet, so we are free to exploit them. This definitely the case with immigrants. They are not citizens so we can exploit the hell out of them! ;) Hopefully soon you will be a citizen!  :)

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Spin Zone / Re: Change of Pace - BrExit...what do you think
« on: June 25, 2016, 09:16:11 AM »
Actually quite the reverse...no representation without taxation.

But it potentially could be. This new tax congress would have the power to enact new taxes, or a complete change to the tax code, correct? So let's say the folks in this group decide that they want to pay less taxes and the way to do it is by enacting a flat tax scheme. Suddenly folks without representation are hit with a new tax they never had before. I suppose these lower class folks would have representation the next session of congress after an election cycle, but would their representation be enough to repeal the new flat tax and go back the way it was? I suspect not. Bottom line, people without representation got taxed.

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Spin Zone / Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
« on: June 25, 2016, 08:59:44 AM »
Let's see, Mr. Scowcroft is a "strategic partner" with Torch Hill Investments, a company that is heavily involved in various government contracts.  Having a pal in the WH will certainly benefit him there.

 Then he is a director of Enron Global Power, so having a friend in high places will be an asset also considering the international business they are involved in (TPP will also be a huge boost to this company).

 Then he is also a director of Quallcom Spinco, so that WH connection will com in handy there as well. He's even a director for Pennzoil-Quaker State so again, a WH connection will help grease the skids.

 So please tell me again how this is not financially motivated?

Neat, but riddle me this- Why didn't he endorse Mr. big businessman and fellow conservative? Would he not enjoy all the same exact benefits from Trump, a guy who totally understands how government connections can help your business? I'll put it like this. OK, it is about money and basically Scowcroft is saying that Trump would be bad for business, his business, so he is pragmatically picking the other one.

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Spin Zone / Re: Brent Scowcroft endorses Hillary
« on: June 24, 2016, 08:07:54 PM »
As with most politics, follow the money.

I doubt it's money. I would assume it's because this guy has experience in world politics and understands that Trump would be an absolute disaster with unknown consequences, where as Hillary would be more manageable. Because it is binary, he is picking Hillary not because he likes her, or endorses her party platform, but more...  because Trump.  :o

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Spin Zone / Re: Change of Pace - BrExit...what do you think
« on: June 24, 2016, 07:39:55 PM »
Well, then it would be their money.


Want to "tax the rich", well, they get more votes out of the deal, and can thus vote to lower their taxes.  Exempt 47% of people from taxes?  Now they get no votes at all.

And that basically goes back to what started all this- taxation without representation.

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Spin Zone / Re: Change of Pace - BrExit...what do you think
« on: June 24, 2016, 07:35:52 PM »
I've proposed a "third chamber" for Congress before.  It would have representation based upon the amount of tax revenue collected in each state.  It would only have power of taxation and spending bills.  Other bills that regulate stuff (ie. a law against murder) would not need the asset of this hypothetical third chamber.

How would that differ much from what we have? The states with the largest populations rake in the most tax revenue and usually have the most industry/business that also creates tax revenue. So the same states that dominate now, would continue to do so with the same political bias. California, New York, Illinois, etc would just say hell yes to more social spending and more taxes.

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Spin Zone / Re: Change of Pace - BrExit...what do you think
« on: June 24, 2016, 11:55:55 AM »
Then what's up with the Mexican flags at La Raza rallies and people reclaiming the southwest for Mexico? Are they first generation, later, what?

There are two separate houses in my neighborhood that fly Irish flags along side the US flag. Having never lived anywhere else, I can't really say what it's like, but I think you always have some pride in where you are from and the people that you descended from. I imagine that if I were to move to a foreign country I might still display the US flag from time to time.

I hear people in the south still fly Confederate flags and they used to say stuff like- "The South will rise again!". What the hell is up with that?

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On the other hand, citizens may be surprised when they do follow the orders. Cops already look upon citizens as "them."

Indeed. It is an unknown. I suppose it would depend on the circumstances.

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