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Spin Zone / Re: First Presser is Terrific
« on: January 11, 2017, 03:36:08 PM »
AKA, Fake News.  After throwing such a fuss about it for the past two months, it's a wonder that Democrats gave it any play at all  :o :o

Other than the intelligence agencies, I don't see that many people, of any political persuasion, signing on that the Buzzfeed documents are the gospel truth. As to the Buzzfeed documents being "fake news", dunno, those same intelligence agencies felt there was enough weight to them to brief the President and the President elect.  That is real news, even if the documents themselves are garbage.

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Spin Zone / Re: A "liberal/progressive" calls out her own kind
« on: January 11, 2017, 01:57:51 PM »
Kirstin Powers may be a Democrat, and liberal, but she gets it right on this one.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/410350885.html

Can't say I disagree with her position.  There is no doubt there are some on the left (and the right) that have an axe to grind and take a deaf ear to any other opinion other than their own.

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Spin Zone / Re: First Presser is Terrific
« on: January 11, 2017, 01:51:13 PM »
Wow, just made a big pot of applesauce while watching Trump's first news conference. I am mightily impressed. Don't believe any mainstream claims about it unless you watch it yourself.

Strange euphoria setting in ... a president who loves America, is smart, listens, responds, actually works hard on our behalf. Picks highly qualified people, thinks Constitution is important. Wouldn't take a question from CNN because of the fake story they just got called out on.

Happy sigh for now.  :)

Awesome??  LOL!!  Guess that is in the ear of the listener (read the transcript, didn't hear the conference). I understand the President-elect speaks figuratively, not literally, so I'll wait until the President-elect actually accomplishes the promises he makes.  Can't say I learned anything new. 

Do agree with the President-elect on one item.  The "intelligence report" as published by BuzzFeed are a collection of unsubstantiated rumors, unverifiable "facts" and for the most part, unless proven.... garbage.

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Spin Zone / Re: The market will crash if Trump gets elected . . .
« on: January 06, 2017, 01:22:25 PM »
Well.... I've been hearing that the stock market is gonna crash for... Oh... the last 40 years or so.  Every once in a while the prognosticators are correct!  ;)

Probably did hear somewhere along the line that the President elect would cause a crash, but can't say it was all that prevalent.  Didn't vote for the President elect, the stock market had nothing to do with my decision.

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Spin Zone / Re: Merry Christmas
« on: December 25, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
Hope everyone had a joyful and Merry Christmas!  Here's to a Happy New Year as well!

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Spin Zone / Re: Removing fire extinguishers?
« on: December 25, 2016, 03:07:38 PM »
We removed all of the fire extinguishers down here.  It was counter productive.

Methinks you have the wrong type.  Type HW (Holy Water) are the ones you need.  ;)

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I got stuck in a classroom with 600 students because of this guy.

Safe Space?  ;)

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Spin Zone / Re: DNC emails exposed
« on: December 21, 2016, 02:38:12 PM »
Gary, this was lifted from the 100 wikileaks link, I should have noted that.  It is copied and pasted.

Ok - Thanks.  Didn't think they were your words (you write much better than that  ;) )

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Spin Zone / Re: DNC emails exposed
« on: December 21, 2016, 02:00:23 PM »
Can't say for sure but I think your copy got corrupted and added the underline.  The one that came through on my reader doesn't have underlining in the second section beginning "this video...

Possibly.  Just wondering if the narrative was from PaulS or was part of another persons views.

Also read through the two e-mails, agree with you that I don't see a whole lot there to get all excited about.  Routine correspondence from the field people on strategy, talking points and suggestions of where to go from there.  The birddogging reference does indeed show up in the e-mails.  Just like major league baseball team, political campaigns send people to the opponents rallies to hear the points made, the crowd reaction and provide comments - I'm not sure how that could be twisted to inciting violence.  Some of the narrative pertains to the video, even though it is listed under the e-mail section.

The video is a different matter.  Pretty ugly on the face of it.  In true James O'Keefe fashion, rather dis-jointed and a lot of cut and paste and quotes taken out of context.  It does illustrate a few things that are on the seamy side of politics.  The use of PAC's and other "independent" political organizations to do the grunt work has exploded over the last 10-20 years.  A tactic used to great success by both parties.  Would have been interesting to see how the initial introductions to the interviews went.  How did the people from ProjectVeritas portray themselves?  Lots of language that has previously been characterized as "locker room" talk.    Guess the "proof" will be dependent on the predisposition of the viewer.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Clinton Archipelago
« on: December 21, 2016, 12:33:51 PM »
Pretty clever!  Was fun to browse!

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Spin Zone / Re: DNC emails exposed
« on: December 21, 2016, 12:16:59 PM »
Let's see where this takes us:

Paying people to incite violence and unrest at Trump rallies
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https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3833
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/31335
“Engage immigrant rights organizations. DREAMers have been bird dogging Republican presidential candidates on DACA/DAPA, but they’ve learned to respond. There’s an opportunity to bird dog and record questions about Trump’s comments and connect it to the policy.”
“It doesn’t matter what the friggin’ legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker” (from video below)
"I mean honestly, it is not hard to get some of these ass holes to pop off, it’s a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally, in a Planned Parenthood t-shirt. Or, Trump is a Nazi, you know? You can message to draw them out, and draw them to punch you."

This video - https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY - is the proof, please watch it!
"Bird-dogging" is a term coined by high level Clinton staffers who openly talk about it in the video.  They boast about inciting violence at Trump rallies, paying for every “protest”, manipulating Americans through the media to think that Trump is dangerous, and tricking people into thinking Trump supporters are violent and bad.
They laugh about paying off mentally ill and homeless people for years to incite violence against conservatives.  Truly despicable.  And they pretended to be Bernie supporters while they were "protesting".
They admit to starting the Chicago riot where police were seriously hurt, and admit to shutting down the freeway in Arizona, partnering with Black Lives Matter. We even have proof that Hillary paid people to shut down the Chicago rally.
Inciting a riot is illegal under 18 US Code § 2102. 
They also think 50% of people in Iowa and Wisconsin are racists, as they state in the video.
Robby Mook, Clinton Campaign Manager, mentions the Priorities SuperPAC in a leak, which is implicated in the video.
Bob Creamer (who was fired) claims in the video that the campaign knew about everything.  Bob Creamer visited the White House 340 times and personally met with Obama 45 times.
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Question - Are the underlined words yours?  Just trying to understand if that is your intrepretation of the content and meaning of the e-mails and video.

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I don't know.  What were the nature of the Executive Orders?  I guarantee Obama's were to circumvent legislation for the most part.  Reagan's not so much.  I will bet you a dollar, or a Victory IPA.  :)

Hmmm.... the IPA sounds intriguing..  ;D

They are all listed:

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama-subjects.html

The vast majority are pretty mundane and more to do with just running the government.  Probably are some that circumvent legislation.  There is a difference between an Executive Order and an Executive Action.

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Spin Zone / Re: What is social justice?
« on: December 20, 2016, 06:47:19 PM »
Really, I just can't figure it out.

Me neither... the definition seems to shift depending on which party/ideology is in power.

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Spin Zone / Re: Steingar in trouble
« on: December 20, 2016, 06:38:12 PM »
Please indicate which Republicans took money from foreign governments like the Clintons did.

Again, are you speaking to the Clinton Presidential campaign or the Clinton Foundation.  Foreign money flowing to a presidential campaign is most certainly a problem.  Foreign contributions to the Clinton Foundation are perfectly legal. 


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Did you notice that chart was through Oct 2014?  Obama has issued most of his EOs since then.

Is this one better?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders


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