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Spin Zone / Franken resigns in disgrace
« on: December 07, 2017, 10:01:26 AM »
Good bye, good riddance!
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Spin Zone / Re: The British hate the 2nd Amendment
« on: December 07, 2017, 08:55:38 AM »I've noticed that so many British people hate the 2nd Amendment.
Do you think they're still carrying a grudge and wishing they had used a better plan to take away our guns when they had the chance?
The British have a second amendment?
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Spin Zone / Re: The failure of a generation
« on: December 06, 2017, 08:07:22 PM »But onto something a little more serious. That quote is a bit mysterious, and I have seen it attributed to a number of dead notable people. The main point is curmudgeons have been making the same observations for a very, very long time. My parents heard it from their parents, and I heard it from them.
But you said it was Socrates. You didn't even bother to fact check it. And yet we see a pattern as you've posted several items that were shown later to be false or misrepresented.
If you want to make a point, credibility matters.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 07:09:09 PM »Wait, someone assaulted Pandora too? What is the world coming to...
Probably Al Franken...........
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 06:39:55 PM »A 51-49 majority for the Democrats may constitute control, because they vote as a block, principles be damned.
But the same majority for the Rs does NOT constitute control, because Rs are more likely to vote their conscience, or at least vote for their constituents best interest. And no two people will always have the exact same set of principles, or constituent demands. So a 51-49, or even a 55-45 majority would not guarantee control for the Rs. We need to vote in more conservatives, not fewer.
Give that man a cigar!
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:43:41 PM »Hate to break it to you, but incumbent re-election rates are at an all time high.
https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/reelect.php
When push comes to shove, and their neck is next on the block, NO ONE is going to vote to impeach a member of their own.
Hate to break it to you, but you still don’t quite understand all of the dynamics in play.
The Republican Party is dead. All it is now is a bunch of special interest entities. They’ve already broke ranks with conventional wisdom, they’ve already turned their backs on their constituents.
You were the one “guaranteeing” Trump would not seek re-election. If these republicans were organized a sitting president would easily, without question slide into a second term. You’ve even alluded previously of the party back stabbing.
I don’t trust one goddamn politician in congress any further than I could kick them. And I goddamn don’t trust them with regards to fucking over a legal and rightful elected President.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:00:28 PM »And looking out for their own neck is why they won't vote impeachment. Imagine the other party members reaction to unseating the president of the US. It would be brutal. Not to mention the biggest good old boy network in the world - the GOP
We are in different times now. What worked previously isn’t working now. We have an establishment that is fighting to hold onto power.
You can toss conventional wisdom out the window.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 03:53:24 PM »
So we have a republican majority in the house and the senate.
Yet we can't repeal Obamacare. And even with several R congressmen and senators that actually campaigned and got elected on a repeal promise, when push came to shove, no repeal. And the bastard of the senate, one John McCain cast the no ballot.
So trying to convince me that the Senate has the republican majority and don't worry if they lose a senate seat because it will still be a republican majority doesn't give me much comfort.
Same goes with a whole host of issues that shouldn't be an issue in a house, a senate and a WH under one party.
Every senate seat is needed. Every house seat is needed. Right now the republicans have too many swamp creatures looking out for themselves and to hell with the rest of us.
Yet we can't repeal Obamacare. And even with several R congressmen and senators that actually campaigned and got elected on a repeal promise, when push came to shove, no repeal. And the bastard of the senate, one John McCain cast the no ballot.
So trying to convince me that the Senate has the republican majority and don't worry if they lose a senate seat because it will still be a republican majority doesn't give me much comfort.
Same goes with a whole host of issues that shouldn't be an issue in a house, a senate and a WH under one party.
Every senate seat is needed. Every house seat is needed. Right now the republicans have too many swamp creatures looking out for themselves and to hell with the rest of us.
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Spin Zone / Re: Another One Bites the Dust....
« on: December 06, 2017, 03:11:10 PM »Flawed logic. I've said this before, but the balance in the senate would shift from 52-48 to 51-49 and it's not even a full term. To suggest this is some massive shift in the balance of the senate is just wrong.
Roy Moore's spokeswoman from that CNN interview tried to claim that this seat will be the deciding vote in balance of the Supreme Court for the next 30-40 years. Again, flawed logic.
You are seriously misjudging and overlooking the establishment types in the senate as well as the house.
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Spin Zone / Re: The failure of a generation
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:56:36 PM »Socrates did not write that. This article provides the original source:
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/
It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times.
And once again we find the perfesser writing something blatantly untrue and not a hint of fact checking.
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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 12:19:16 PM »If trump gets impeached and removed from office, BFD. I think the Dems should be more afraid of Mike Pence because he comes across as both strong and reasonable and he destroys anyone the DNC has on tap right now.
In that scenario if the progressives successfully got a sitting president of the other party removed, what makes you think they would stop there? Their grievance is that they lost an election they felt was rightfully theirs. They are also alarmed at how Trump has been systematically unraveling the "legacy" of their beloved BHO. Also they are alarmed they don't control the Supreme Court and that Trump has been changing the face of the judiciary in the lower courts.
And Pence would continue in that direction.
The progressives as well as the establishment are in a fight for power. Until they get an establishment type back in the WH they will not rest.
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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 10:29:43 AM »Hmmm... who's third in line?
BTW, I don''t know why Trump holds Sessions in such high esteem. Is it a case of keeping the enemy closer?
Sessions only befriended Trump in order to get a cabinet position. Sessions is just another swamp dweller, he just decided a different method to get what he wants.
And make no mistake, if they were successful in getting Trump out Pence would quickly follow (out).
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Spin Zone / Re: Really Mueller?
« on: December 06, 2017, 07:58:45 AM »http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454361/peter-strzok-fbi-scandal-partisan-american-bureaucracy
This really needs to be shut down. I am not understanding why Trump is just standing by, seemingly, doing nothing while the deep state carries forward with this coup.
Trump is in the exact situation the establishment and the progressives want him in. If he attempts to shut it down then the battle cry is he is guilty! Also the mouth foaming progressives will start this "obstruction of justice" crap.
His AG Sessions conveniently recused himself and left Rosenstein in charge. Rosenstein is tied to Mueller and Comey. Ryan and McConnell are in the back room just hoping and wishing something will come of this so they can get one of their own in the Oval Office.
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Spin Zone / Re: Liberal Academic Arrested for Attacking Conservative Students
« on: December 06, 2017, 06:36:30 AM »16125
Spin Zone / Re: Conyers
« on: December 05, 2017, 04:46:30 PM »https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-conyers-im-retiring-as-of-today
What the hell? I didn't realize we had hereditary succession in this country. Why isn't there a written procedure for who gets a vacated seat midterm?
Gotta keep the corruption in the family. Lots of money to be made in congress.