oh, I understand what rights were violated.  I don't understand why the courts have such a cranium/rectal inversion.

Because Orange Man bad. Duh.

This one is on Biden.  That said, there was no way out withdrawal wasn't going to be pandemonium, and yes we should have done it far sooner.  Obama should have done it.  Trump should have done it.  The one thing I would like to have seen would have been us quietly spiriting out our allies (all those guys who helped us over the years) before the collapse.

I can only hope that 20 years out of power has tempered the Taliban some.  It sounds like it might have, I think they've realized that they really can't be a pariah state.  Might curb some of their worst instincts.  Might not.

Oh, they emptied all the jails.  Some of those guys were Taliban fighters.  Some of them were criminals, murderers and thieves and whatnot.  Way to go Taliban!  Afghanistan is their mess now.  Good fucking riddance.

You would have thought that the Army War College, West Point, the US Air Force Academy, and the Naval Academy might have had a text book or history book describing how a withdrawal should happen; perhaps one they had a picture of the helicopter on the roof of the US Embassy in Saigon, for example.

You would have thought one or more of those generals or admirals would have pulled those old dusty text books and binders off their shelf and looked at them over the last 20 years.

You would have thought one of those generals or admirals would have advised their superiors in their chain of command to say, “Hey, just FYI, pulling the military out without getting Americans out and without withdrawing our weapons and assets may not be a good thing to do.”

You would have thought one of those superiors would have gone to the SecDef to advise him and the president of the same.

You would have thought.

Ridiculous.

Any mutation that would get away from vaccines would get away from a non vaccinated person too. The virus is much more likely to mutate in a non vaccinated person.  Someone who is vaccinated, either because the antibodies were produced as a response to a real virus, an attenuated one, or by mRNA message has the same antibodies produced. If viruses mutated and evaded antibodies to become more deadly, the human race would have died out long, long ago.

Antibodies kill the virus in vaccinated people. Period. While it’s true that everyone can carry the virus around, people who are vaccinated by any means don’t produce mutations, the virus gets killed.

Wow. So video interviews with and papers written by at least four doctors, posted earlier in this thread, are all bogus and incorrect. And Dr. Robert Malone, who invented the mRNA “vaccine,” doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

Got it.

Exactly, and the idiots on Los Angeles are mandating it now to get into certain public places. They’re even comparing it to polio and smallpox. It’s insanity. This virus will only become less deadly and move into the cold/flu category when the “vaccinations” STOP.

It is truly madness, I feel like I’ve slipped into an alternate dimension. I can hardly believe what is happening.

True, but if you post COVID numbers that are bad, people here  just say they don't believe them,

I don't care if anyone else on this board takes this as seriously as I do.  I have seen the pain, misery and death this causes up close and personally.  I believe what I see.

And as for your numbers, 500,000 hospitalized from flu.  600,000 died from Covid.

34,000 vs 600,000 dead is a big difference.  Of course, people on this board think a handful of vaccine reactions is reason to avoid a disease that kills many many more than that.

It's not just the vaccine ramifications.  It is the lockdowns and destruction of many small businesses and lives.  It is government control and oppression and the propaganda to brainwash the masses.  If your at risk quarantine and take precautions.  You don't have to destroy normal people's lives for an infinitesimally small percentage of the population.  It is totally unnecessary. 

Cases are meaningless, except to drive fear in the media.  And as you mentioned, case numbers are being manipulated.

Especially when "case" is undefined.  Someone infected with covid may have symptoms ranging from nothing (asymptomatic) to dead.  Even dead is undefined as as we have dead with covid vs dead from covid.  Is a case a positive covid test?  That can be difficult as a positive test may be caused by a vaccine or a prior infection.  If it's a positive test from a prior infection is that another case?  It's easy to drive fear when your data is undefined.

Reminds me of the ethanol in the gas scam.  To save the planet, you know.

Someone on Twitter put something about there being some provision for martial law in the infrastructure bill. A quick search did not turm up anything. Anyone else care to try?

They have to pass it before you can see what's in it.