Wow. It’s going to edge out biological women completely and the sport will end up being men’s and tranny’s.

Good job liberals and feminists. Once again your insanity only hurts women.

Edit: make no mistake, I want transgenders to be accepted and to live happy lives. One of my best friends was transgender. He committed suicide and drives my desire to see more research to help these people.

At the same time there is no denying that being born male endows you with greater muscle mass and more strength. It is unfair to women to complete on the same field with biological males even if they transition completely. It sounds unfair to the tranny but life isn’t always fair and this is a case of the greater good for the most people.

This sort of problem only serves to make people resent transgenders and doesn’t help their cause.

You know nothing about the scientific process.  If you had data that proved the Earth wasn't warming you could publish it in the best journal there is.  You'd get grants out the wazoo to support your research.  Scientists are just like everyone else, we love new stuff, especially when it busts paradigms.  Don't tell me it doesn't happen because I've done it myself.

I haven't seen anyone say the earth isn't warming. That's not in question. What's unknown is the extent to which man contributes to it. There is absolutely no agreement nor proof of any kind, addressing this.

Exactly.

 What's funny (sad?) is that someone harps that the President is immoral, then in the same post tells us they supported Hillary.  Hillary is anything but moral.

 As for Hillary, she's been in the public eye for 45 years.  It's not very difficult at all to know who she is, what she is and what she stands for.

Hillary is up to her neck in corruption. But in azure’s defense, if she watches mainstream media she isn’t getting a hint of it. The past two years MSM has been focused on the fake made up fantasy that Trump is a Russian operative while being completely silent on the Clintons’ and the Obama administration’s illegal machinations. What Hillary & Co. has done makes Watergate look like a Sunday school picnic. But hopefully this is all going to come out soon.

Poor little snowflake.

The world just doesn't appreciate your unbelievable wisdom and intelligence...

I can't ever remember a single communist (they call themselves democrats) EVER saying the the left shoud llisten to the right and see if their are areas of agreement, or unity...

I guess you trhink that makes you all better then the rest of us.

Unfortunately both sides are congealing too much in their own certitude and failing to find common ground. However there is a big difference. On economics, the right has already learned leftism, while the left is uneducated about rightism. What I mean is we are all exposed to academia and media and the propaganda that socialism is good and capitalism is bad. I have a degree in economics so I underwent years of them trying to teach me that government control of large pieces of the economy is desirable. But because I am capable of critical thought, I sensed a problem with these schemes. Because I had also on my own read the writings of victims of forced economic collectivism, I learned the truth.

So when a conservative seemingly fails to consider the other side, it’s because he already has, and has no need to go over the same ground again. But when a liberal fails to consider the other side, he actually has never considered the other side, if he has been raised on CNN and gone to typical public schools and universities. He has been taught that capitalism means robber barons oppressing the common man. The truth is capitalism U.S. style has lifted more people out of poverty than anything else in the planet’s history.

Your typical liberal has never done a thorough study of free market economics. That’s why when they finally get around to it you see them switch over, but you rarely see a conservative turn liberal. In addition to this, people tend to grow more conservative with age because with age you gain experience of how the real world works. AKA wisdom. This is why the Democrats must indoctrinate the young and continue to try to recruit ever younger voters.

On at least two issues however - not economics - conservatives commit the same sin: failing to study the other side and standing immobile in their position to the point of spreading harmful propaganda and believing ludicrous fantasies. One of them is drugs. I listened to Sean Hannity the other day proclaim that narcotic painkillers are so evil that even if he had cancer he would not take them. He would endure the pain til death. The levels of ignorance, denial and fantasizing it must take to make such a statement, and the incredible damage such viewpoints has on the ability of sick people to get treatment for their pain, make conservatives, on this one issue, as bad as liberals in their zeal to ruin the world for the rest of us. The FACTS are: only a small portion of patients turn into drug addicts, opioids in hospice before death are miracle drugs that give the patient quality time to say goodbye to their loved ones, not to mention being of great help to chronic pain patients.

The caveat about what I just said above however is that the war on drugs is actually a massive socialist program and hence the left is as responsible as the right in propagating this cruel witch-hunt against pain patients and innocent doctors. The amount of resources (AKA tax dollars) spent on trying to dry up the supply of drugs so the fraction of people who are addicts won’t get them is providing profit for government and private entities while having NO benefit whatsoever on the problem; in fact making it much worse, and the worst part of all is that it makes it extremely difficult for innocent pain patients to get treatment, and it stigmatizes them, shames them, and worst of all, makes them victims of those same fraction of criminal addicts. Drying up the legal supply of painkillers only makes grandma the target of crime.

Putting government in charge of what you consume is leftist territory. Government limiting the amount “allowed” to be manufactured legally, and monitoring who buys and sells it, is totalitarian control of an industry: that is LEFTIST.  My criticism of the right on this issue does not absolve the left. There just might be a few more liberals than conservatives willing to admit the war on drugs is a horrible failure. There are more addicts than ever. As the population ages and requires compassionate pain relief, it gets harder and harder to give it to them as the fist tightens and we will have more and more needless human suffering. Meanwhile the addicts will continue to steal from grandma or get it on the street and end up dying from a Tylenol overdose or switching to heroin because society continues to FAIL to identify and treat the root cause of addiction.

It seems I’ve drifted into a rant. My apologies. My original point was that on a couple of issues the right are making matters worse by not considering the other side. But it seems I have actually proved that even on those issues (or at least one of them) the real problem is leftism once again.

A general litmus test would be: if it’s pro individual freedom along with individual responsibility it’s right. If it’s pro government controls and massive government spending even in the face of obvious worsening of conditions, it’s left.

This.

The worst thing the GLB community ever did to itself was add the T, and all of the mental health and science denying aspects that it brings.

Most people are accepting of and coexist with the GLB community.  The Trans freak show is so offputting that it casts the entire GLBTXYZ community in the worst light.

This.  By expanding the victim group to include all manners of random off the wall peculiarities they kill the credibility of the basic and true GLB, and cause people to dismiss the whole ball of wax, unless you're on board with the identity politic.  This therefore hurts the gay community. It's much the same thing as what's happened to sexual assault. When you confine the definition of sexual assault to forcible physical invasion and rape, you have a clear mission to prevent or punish such acts. But when you expand the definition of sexual attack to include mere verbal harassment, compliments, requests for dates, banter or innocent physical contact such as a hand on the shoulder, then you devalue and hurt the victims of true sexual crimes, and you damage the normal mating game by creating an atmosphere of paranoia.

Likewise with immigration. When you blur the line between legal immigration and illegal trespass, you cause a backlash against legal immigrants.

Straight up homosexuality has always been recognized as a pretty steady percent of the population. In many cultures it was accepted and even assigned special categories or vocations. It is common practice in many animal species and so there is a strong argument that it is acceptable in "nature".  It seems to be a normal and common variation of the sex drive. It's clear that reproduction is the main, but not the only, reason for sex. Reducing social tension, deflecting conflict, reinforcing alliances, and personal stress relief are reasons for same sex contact in many species.  But in all these instances, the animal (person) clearly is either one gender or the other.

Gender identity problems on the other hand, seem to be an abnormal result of random mutations, damage to DNA perhaps, or hormonal misadventures while in the womb, or the result of psychological trauma in early childhood, or as I pointed out earlier, direct interference in development such as genital mutilation (circumcision) complications. I agree with Steingar, in my experience these people are usually a big mess, and I probably have known a lot more of them than he.

Being gay does not require any medical treatment, and gays are otherwise totally normal, and have totally normal relationships, given some sort of basic acceptance in the community. Transgender people on the other hand require medical intervention to have any hope of normal adjustment. This seems to me enough reason to categorize these groups as completely separate. It's horrible the way the left has thrown them together and incited them to agitate politically as some sort of unified group. The focus should be on research and treatment for the second group, not on using them to get votes and gain political power.

Well that is the problem.  Bureaucratic overlap.  EVERY state has their own version of the EPA that enforces the rules which mirror the EPA regs.  Then you have the actual EPA coming in and looking for things to enforce to generate fines, penalties and revenue.  It is out of control. 

This happens with Law Enforcement Agencies, and many other agencies as well.  All vying to justify their budgets and generate additional revenue.  In many ways government has become a for profit business.  It profits those that manage, and operate these agencies. Fed, State, and Local.

Where is the accountability.  Where is the ability to reduce personnel, and reduce budgets?

You nailed it. Little pieces of government become individual fiefdoms with their various lords and kings. Not just the agency on a whole, but each department and sub department within. ALL of these are competing for money and power, from the smallest (the guy in charge of HVAC in your local school system) to the largest, on each and every level of government. Even the most virtuous individual will, at the very least, have a stake in keeping their own job, and so will attempt to puff themselves up with apparent importance.

The difference between them and private for-profit business is the goal is not to maximize profit but rather run as many dollars as possible through their own budget in order to demonstrate their own indispensability.

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/republicans-join-dems-to-push-for-new-gun-control-law/

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/02/oregon-republicans-pushing-gun-control/

https://thehill.com/regulation/284792-house-republicans-pushing-gun-control-bill

Look to your right.  If you don't see the fanatics, look in the mirror.

Well those Republicans are traitors imo.

Anyhoo to your comment to look to the right.  That is the entire point.  "Normal" Republicans and conservative DO look to the right and see extremists, and deplore them, and want nothing to do with them. Far right evil is named and foresaken by mainstream conservatives/Repubs.  But not so on the left. The average liberal Democrat cannot bring themselves to name extreme far left evil, they can't do it. On the contrary they are moving toward it. They cannot draw a distinction between evil extreme leftism and what they are themselves promoting (Green New Deal for example).  They cannot parse out just when their leftism crosses that line. The Green New Deal is a guaranteed disaster on the scale of Stalin. You can't get more evil or extreme than that. Your average liberal doesn't see that at all.