I don't believe the gradual elimination of CFC's stopped the Ice Age the scientists and media tried to convince us was imminent.  The other reductions in pollution were so we could continue breathing the air and drinking water.  They largely worked, but they were not related to climate change.

Now, they are back claiming CO2 is now the devil.  So I guess if you don't worship at the alter of the man made climate change religion you must be considered a Neanderthal DENIER and yes just STFU.  Anyway, they say the science is settled and the debate is over, so we are not allowed to discuss or question it any longer.  Sounds more like a concentration camp dynamic to me.

Yes, but the toilet water that we will have to drink in the concentration camp dynamic will be so much cleaner if they get their way.

The popular belief of Science and the Media in the 1970's was that an ICE AGE was imminent.  I lived through it and remember the hand wringing, and being taught about it in Science class.  The causes were man made pollutants, including industrial pollutants, an CFC's. 

Bottom line?  It NEVER HAPPENED.  So the scientists FAILED.  The MEDIA FAILED, and thank goodness we didn't further ruin an already poor economy by the "fixes" they wanted to put in place.  Oh, they succeeded in SCARING the weak minded just like they do today.

Face it Anthony. We have two scientists telling us what we heard grown up was remote and hyperbolic. The science was questionable if not nonexistence. In other words, you can’t believe what you read because...science.

Similarly, these same two scientists say that with respect to man-made climate change WE are being hyperbolic; our science is questionable if nonexistent. In other words, you can’t believe what you just read in this thread because...science.

I’m not willing to try to find the articles that I’ve read that challenge the level of support for the man-made aspect of climate change while discounting the effect of natural or solar variations in climate, so apparently until you and I do some research and submit peer-reviewed studies and raw data we need to sit down and shut the fuck up. Now get back in line like a good lemming.

I guarantee you the expert scientists in Congress like chemist Ocasio-Cortez have not read a single peer-reviewed article on climate change either. But that’s ok, because what the “scientific community” is implying further her socialist goals, so the facts are irrelevant.

A master of misdirection.  I haven't heard anything about his taxes for a while and "RACIST!" is being diluted beyond all meaning.  And now everyone can see very clearly who is against him in government, the media, and elsewhere.  It's great having your enemies stand up and look like fools.

Exactly!  Like when I live on a farm and had to eradicate raccoons infesting the out buildings. I’d take my lever action Marlin rifle out at night with a flashlight. Shine a light on them and they stand up in a “please shoot me in the belly” pose. So I did.

Before or after they roughed up your Origami Ass at Osh Kosh?  LOL!

. Congratulations Anthony. You win the Internet today! 

Yes! And I hate the way the MSM (specifically PBS/NPR, I assume the others are similar) gives anything to do with LGBT so much attention, always with a left-leaning political slant. It is always done in a very self-conscious, virtue-signaling way, very much the same way they handle issues related to race. IMO that is NOT what the news should be about, it should be about presenting facts accurately.

Also it is not just that the left has claimed LGBT - I can't think of a single lesbian that I know who isn't at least left-leaning. I have one close friend who is far-left progressive, and another who is only a little to the left of where I am today. I don't think I've ever met a conservative or even libertarian lesbian or gay person, though I know there must be many out there. But there is very strong peer pressure in the community toward leftism.

Lucifer, thanks for the links... I'm not surprised that Rapinoe is an activist and wouldn't be surprised to see her run for office. I just hadn't seen that stuff before - I don't generally watch CNN or MSNBC, and even the PBS Newshour feed that had the ticker tape parade got dropped here for some reason, so all I caught were short clips that aired later.

Based on a couple gay conservatives that I know, “peer pressure” is an understatement.  The militant left seems SO unhinged at the thought of one of their own perceived constituencies crossing over to conservatism, that they do everything to ostracize if not destroy the “traitor.”  I’m not being hyperbolic either. This is what my friends have experienced.

Likewise for blacks who leave the plantation. Their treatment is worse.  Look at how Clarence Thomas and other numerous black conservatives are treated.

Pretty much where I am, personally. There are really no Dems in the running that I could even think of voting for, other than (possibly) Biden, and his age is a big negative, not to mention that he has been moving leftward toward looney-land. Not sure where he will come down in the end on the issues.

But walking away from the Dems and voting for Trump are two different things... liking some of what he's done for this country doesn't necessarily outweigh everything else. Most importantly, I still have reservations about some of his foreign policy tactics. Maybe the MSM has slanted the picture, but it seems that he doesn't appreciate the role our alliances have played in keeping the world from sliding into WW3.

Now the 4th of July parade? No criticism from me on that, I thought it was perfect - except for the bit about airports during the Revolutionary War. Ummm.... wtf was he thinking?

Welcome back!  It’s been a while, hasn’t it? 

I believe there’s no “maybe” about the MSM slanting the picture regarding foreign policy and our allies. In the course of 29 months, the MSM has gone from Trump starting WWIII with North Korea to criticizing him for “elevating” the squatty dictator by a handshake and stepping into NK. He can’t win either way.

Similarly with what our “allies” think about us. I guarantee that most of our allies and especially their electorate would like to have a weak and emasculated, bowing and apologizing United States, even though we protect their asses 24/7/365.

Nationalism, or pride in the USA, is now a bad thing according to the MSM.

And Trump has to fight all of it, every single minute of every single day.

Trump’s speech was utterly perfect.